is this group still going?

[P Air]

[Bob Hansmann]

I'm still here. No new posts,though.

[b***@bobk.us]

It has been quiet, but if no one has anything to say, why say it? haha




-------Original Message-------

From: Bob Hansmann
Date: 3/11/2014 1:47:49 PM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [midiguitar] is this group still going?


I'm still here. No new posts,though.

[n***@yahoo.co.uk]

I just joined this week, so I certainly hope that there's a bit of life here still. ..
I am a Starr Labs Ztar player, who lives in Bulgaria and have 4 of the bloody things.. I also have Axon and Roland geetar synths.

Has anyone tried the Jam Origin software, and if so, opinions?? I didn't like it so much (trial version) and thought it was similar to a GK2 with all the inherent glitchy problems, although I set it up on an old Toshiba laptop, and my soundcard was USB2 (a Mackie Spike, which I just set up to try the software) so some latency, which was the fault of the soundcard and probably not the program..

I tried midi out, and it seemed to work reasonably, but I would always miss being able to layer channels anywhere, and apply different zones to different voices, as the Ztar does impeccably...

I only ever play Ztar in 2 x handed tapping mode..

Anyway, just thought I should introduce myself.. :-)

take care

richard
bulgaria

[Ken Coughlin]

Welcome to the group Richard. Which Roland synth(s) do you have?



Thanks,
Ken

“I’m neither LEFT nor RIGHT, I’m in the MIDI.”







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I just joined this week, so I certainly hope that there's a bit of life here still. ..
I am a Starr Labs Ztar player, who lives in Bulgaria and have 4 of the bloody things.. I also have Axon and Roland geetar synths.

Has anyone tried the Jam Origin software, and if so, opinions?? I didn't like it so much (trial version) and thought it was similar to a GK2 with all the inherent glitchy problems, although I set it up on an old Toshiba laptop, and my soundcard was USB2 (a Mackie Spike, which I just set up to try the software) so some latency, which was the fault of the soundcard and probably not the program..

I tried midi out, and it seemed to work reasonably, but I would always miss being able to layer channels anywhere, and apply different zones to different voices, as the Ztar does impeccably...

I only ever play Ztar in 2 x handed tapping mode..

Anyway, just thought I should introduce myself.. :-)

take care

richard
bulgaria

[b***@bobk.us]

Has anyone tried the new portable amp. Bluetooth, but you can plug a goitar
into? I am in the Dominican republic, and am limited to what I can get, or
bring here.
I need something small, but would be nice if it were multi purpose, like to
play flacs from my PC also. Not looking for more than a practice amp. I
guess I would add,
That I am willing to spend, a fair amount, to get something that sounds good....I have a small electric travel guitar, and also, my UGG urock, that is collecting dust.

[Joel B. Christian]

Hi Folks:

I agree - nothing to say, why say it??

To be honest, I've spent the last two years trying to get my GR-55 to
sound as good as my GR-1. Still not there yet. Still don't have the
warm strings the GR-50 had on either one.

Joel C.
List Moderator

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It has been quiet, but if no one has anything to say, why say it? haha
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I'm still here. No new posts,though.
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[Harvey Starr]

Hi All,

I would like to offer that we have made several new Ztars.
Our most interesting addition I feel is our Clipper fingerboard that
adds interactive RGB LED lighting to each note position of the
fingerboard. Now when you record and playback a loop it can display your
fingering! It can also be used as a teaching system by sending in
scales,chords,songs, etc to the lighting system on the neck. It's called
the Clipper because it works with Ableton Live to display and perform
the clip-grid on the fingerboard just the way it appears on the computer
screen. You can record and play Ableton clips from one section of the
fingerboard while playing guitar (piano, drums, whatever) from another
section. Fully wireless too.

As with our other fingerboards, the Clipper is velocity-sensitive and
fully polyphonic on each string. You can see some videos on the
StarrLabsZone channel on Youtube. We had one from the 2014 NAMM show, no
monster shredding, but a lady wanted to play ukelele, so I set up the
tuning and created a strumming-zone on the fingerboard, and within 2
minutes she was playing ukelele. She earned a beer for that.

We also can offer our AirPower MIDI wireless to remote any 5-pin MIDI
guitar like the YRG

all for now,
harveyS
Starr Labs

Post by Joel B. Christian
I agree - nothing to say, why say it??
To be honest, I've spent the last two years trying to get my GR-55 to
sound as good as my GR-1. Still not there yet. Still don't have the
warm strings the GR-50 had on either one.
Joel C.
List Moderator

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It has been quiet, but if no one has anything to say, why say it? haha
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[D. P.]

Wondering if this new Roland/Boss unit will do midi better than the VG-99...

[richard brown]

Hi Ken.. I have a GR30 and GK3 which I'm going to use on a Chapman Stick-type 12 string that I'm building..also, with 2 x piezo bridges and pre-amps and 2 x EMG 81 actives, maybe installed in the 'neck' position. .   The Axon AX100 will be on the bass strings I think (because I really like the GR30 arpeggiator, and would use it on the top course of strings)


I've had most of the Roland efforts over the years, since the first GR500, but I haven't had the newer ones.. 

I also owned a full SynthAxe system many years ago, which I didn't get along with so well, but wish I had kept.  Again, the layering was not easy, as it was an early midi design, and 'mode 4'. 

I did like assigning two of the right hand piano-type keys to bend G and B strings though, like a Hipshot system.  But it was not interesting enough to keep at the time just for this.   The Ztar can do all of that (except right-hand piano-type keys) better.


richard

[Ken Coughlin]

If you like the GR30 arpeggiator, you may want to stay away from the GR55.
They removed the arpeggiator & intelligent harmonizer. They did add a number
of good features, but I miss the arpeggiator & harmonizer.



Thanks,
Ken

"I'm neither LEFT nor RIGHT, I'm in the MIDI."







From: ***@yahoogroups.com [mailto:***@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of richard brown
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:21 PM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [midiguitar] is this group still going?





Hi Ken.. I have a GR30 and GK3 which I'm going to use on a Chapman
Stick-type 12 string that I'm building..also, with 2 x piezo bridges and
pre-amps and 2 x EMG 81 actives, maybe installed in the 'neck' position. .
The Axon AX100 will be on the bass strings I think (because I really like
the GR30 arpeggiator, and would use it on the top course of strings)



I've had most of the Roland efforts over the years, since the first GR500,
but I haven't had the newer ones..

I also owned a full SynthAxe system many years ago, which I didn't get along
with so well, but wish I had kept. Again, the layering was not easy, as it
was an early midi design, and 'mode 4'.

I did like assigning two of the right hand piano-type keys to bend G and B
strings though, like a Hipshot system. But it was not interesting enough to
keep at the time just for this. The Ztar can do all of that (except
right-hand piano-type keys) better.





richard

[Franco Casagrande]

I'm also looking for news,but if news are not coming, it may mean that the topic may have become obsolete




Il Martedì 11 Marzo 2014 20:32, Ken Coughlin <***@pksip.com> ha scritto:

 
If you like the GR30 arpeggiator, you may want to stay away from the GR55. They removed the arpeggiator & intelligent harmonizer. They did add a number of good features, but I miss the arpeggiator & harmonizer.
 
Thanks,
Ken
 “I’m neither LEFT nor RIGHT, I’m in the MIDI.”
 
 
 
From:***@yahoogroups.com [mailto:***@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of richard brown
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:21 PM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [midiguitar] is this group still going?
 
 
Hi Ken.. I have a GR30 and GK3 which I'm going to use on a Chapman Stick-type 12 string that I'm building..also, with 2 x piezo bridges and pre-amps and 2 x EMG 81 actives, maybe installed in the 'neck' position. .   The Axon AX100 will be on the bass strings I think (because I really like the GR30 arpeggiator, and would use it on the top course of strings)
 
I've had most of the Roland efforts over the years, since the first GR500, but I haven't had the newer ones.. 
I also owned a full SynthAxe system many years ago, which I didn't get along with so well, but wish I had kept.  Again, the layering was not easy, as it was an early midi design, and 'mode 4'. 
I did like assigning two of the right hand piano-type keys to bend G and B strings though, like a Hipshot system.  But it was not interesting enough to keep at the time just for this.   The Ztar can do all of that (except right-hand piano-type keys) better.
 
 
richard

[n***@yahoo.co.uk]

Hi Ken..

I would not buy any more Roland gear..(although I quite liked the demos of the GR55 and the sounds) I only kept the GR30 to put on my Stick, along with the Axon AX100 (first edition) and 2 x GK 3's, because e-Bay prices for gear are so pathetic lately, and it's not worth selling.(or rather giving away) .

I think they will sound OK ..also with piezo and pre's and magnetic p/ups..(all of which I have laying in drawers) should be good.. (I hope so anyway :-) and at least it will be a challenge..

On my Ztars, I play above the 12th with my right, and below (chords and bass) with my left, so I shall probably play Stick in 'crossed' hands style. but probably with 2 x courses in normal guitar tuning and with bass reversed.. Tuning in fourths and fifths is too difficult for me to get my head around after all these years. :-).

cheers

[Brian Brockie]

glad to see the group is till functioning .....

I have not progressed with my useage

Still using a Roland Ready Strat and a GR33 for live performance

If anyone is interested in Casio dinosaurs .... I have 3 x MG 510s and a near mint PG 380 and a PG 310 for sale

Thanks for reading

Brian
(London UK)



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Subject: RE: [midiguitar] is this group still going?
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 11 March, 2014, 22:05
















 









Hi Ken..

I would not buy any more Roland gear..(although I quite
liked the demos of the GR55 and the sounds)  I only
kept the GR30 to put on my Stick, along with the Axon AX100
(first edition)  and 2 x GK 3's,  because
e-Bay prices for gear are so pathetic lately, and it's
not worth selling.(or rather giving away)  .

 I think they will sound OK ..also with piezo and
pre's and magnetic p/ups..(all of which I have laying in
drawers)   should be good.. (I hope so anyway :-) and
at least it will be a challenge..

On my Ztars, I play above the 12th with my right, and below
(chords and bass)  with my left, so I shall probably
play Stick in 'crossed' hands style.  but
probably with 2 x courses in normal guitar tuning and with
bass reversed.. Tuning in fourths and fifths is too
difficult for me to get my head around after all these
years. :-).

cheers

[richard brown]

It sounds excellent, and looks rugged..  What is the street price?

 
richard
bg (Bulgaria)

[Philip Sumesgutner]

No, MIDI won't be better than the VG-99. Simply because it doesn't have MIDI ;-)
It's a GR-55 without PCM synths. Just analogue synth (which is good...).

[D. P.]

Do you think it has no guitar-to-midi conversion onboard?

[Andrzej Pajak]

It is on-board.

[Philip Sumesgutner]

It has Guitar-to-MIDI capabilities, yes. And onboard. It creates MIDI notes and sends them through USB. So you can use any of your favourite MIDI synths on your computer

[s***@yahoo.com]

Yes it is, going. I keep posting in a group that was abandoned 9 years ago, and nobody is there. I do it just to hold a world record and it feels really cool when I want to be alone for a while.

[n***@yahoo.co.uk]

Has anyone tried Jam Origin?

I have a roland GA77 amp, and use it with a GK2, but while I love the amp, which I think is easily as good as my Fender Twin and other amps, I hate the GA77 'synthy sounds' (with GK2) , and the fidlly-ness of the GK2/3 pickups and the annoying lead.

If I want a strat sound I have strats, and if I want a Gibson sound, I have a Gibson and other humbucker guitars (including strats) without a silly heavy (and really quite delicate) 13-pin lead.. The roland amp gives me excellent and very different eq'd sounds and compressions and tremolo and reverbs and distortions etc..

Maybe 'direct out from the guitar modelling' might be a good way for future FX and midi guitar synth interfaces to go, as processors get cheaper and more powerful..

Then I could throw the silly GK3's and Axon-type pickups away, and I could live quite happily with just a 1/4 inch jack lead.

It seems as if the technology is almost there, but I certainly don't want to have to plug my guitar into an audio interface, and then into a laptop, and then into an amp.. That may be OK for small (or large) studio setups, but for gigging, it would be a nightmare..

richard
bg

[D. P.]

Richard wrote: Has anyone tried Jam Origin?
--------------------
Yeah, but no way it is really polyphonic and the lag on lower notes is
too much.
It migh be interesting to convert some simpler audio file to midi, but
not for
live use. For the latter I use an Axon AX50 which works also good (or
very good)
on lower notes.
I am intrigued about the new Boss GP-10. It has no standard 5-pin midi
(what a shame!)
but sends midi and 6 channel audio (or maybe 7?) via usb. Currently I am
in South-Europe,
where this beast will not be available in the next 2 months.
Anybody tested it yet?

Richard, if you want to get rid of those hex-pickups, send them to me to
Montenegro! ;-)

Cheers,
Djordje

[Jeff]

Jam Origin did an impressive job, but I'd say it's still no better than a GR33 MIDI out to USB, in terms of speed/accuracy. I still much prefer my Fishman Triple Play.

Sent from my iPad

Post by D. P.
Richard wrote: Has anyone tried Jam Origin?
--------------------
Yeah, but no way it is really polyphonic and the lag on lower notes is too much.
It migh be interesting to convert some simpler audio file to midi, but not for
live use. For the latter I use an Axon AX50 which works also good (or very good)
on lower notes.
I am intrigued about the new Boss GP-10. It has no standard 5-pin midi (what a shame!)
but sends midi and 6 channel audio (or maybe 7?) via usb. Currently I am in South-Europe,
where this beast will not be available in the next 2 months.
Anybody tested it yet?
Richard, if you want to get rid of those hex-pickups, send them to me to Montenegro! ;-)
Cheers,
Djordje

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[o***@laposte.net]

Or maybe no one wants to play midi guitar anymore ?

Olivier

[D. P.]

Olivier and All,

I am not really "playing" midi guitar. I use it as tool to record midi
tracks
along with real guitar sound. Fantastic for the creation of working
sheets for
teaching music. I know how hard it was without this tool....

Regards,
Djordje

[Steve Morris]

Post by o***@laposte.net
Or maybe no one wants to play midi guitar anymore ?

I've been playing a lot mof MIDI guitar, assuming the GR-55 is
considered MIDI. I just haven't had much new to say about it.

Though I was pleased to find that the GR-55 USB audio is class compliant
so I've set up a new performance rig. I put ubuntu studio on an old
laptop, hook up the GR-55 via USB audio, FCB-1010 foot pedal over a USB
MIDI interface, sooperlooper on the laptop and use the GR-55 output to
my amp.

Steve

[Alan Ratcliffe]

Post by Steve Morris
I've been playing a lot mof MIDI guitar, assuming the GR-55 is
considered MIDI. I just haven't had much new to say about it.

Likewise. Getting on with it. Repetitive "which is best" forum/list
chatter is mostly for those who can't play or use their gear properly
IM(admittedly not so)HO.

I've added in a pair of kick drum triggers and a Roland TD-9 Drum brain
to my setup and now play seated. Between that, modelled bass, synth,
piezo and the natural guitar sounds (nylon or Strat usually), I've
become a one man backing band for solo artists touring in my (somewhat
remote) region. Also working on originals with a male vocalist/udu drum
player

I am hoping that Roland come out with a new GR that has an expanded
feature set - double the synth and modelled voices alongside more
effects units would be nice. And more conventional mixer-style summing.
Other than that the GR-55 works. I've considered adding in a second
GR-55 or a VG, but the last thing I need is a bigger stage footprint.

Alan

[Jeff]

I'll have to try SooperLooper on my Ubuntu box. I've got a class compliant audio interface that should work.

Sent from my iPad

Post by Steve Morris

Post by o***@laposte.net
Or maybe no one wants to play midi guitar anymore ?

I've been playing a lot mof MIDI guitar, assuming the GR-55 is
considered MIDI. I just haven't had much new to say about it.
Though I was pleased to find that the GR-55 USB audio is class compliant
so I've set up a new performance rig. I put ubuntu studio on an old
laptop, hook up the GR-55 via USB audio, FCB-1010 foot pedal over a USB
MIDI interface, sooperlooper on the laptop and use the GR-55 output to
my amp.
Steve
------------------------------------

[Les Fradkin]

I not only play Midi guitar all the time, I'm well known for so doing.
Check out my stuff. You might like it.

Regards,

Les Fradkin

http://www.lesfradkin.com
http://www.reverbnation.com/lesfradkin
https://www.facebook.com/lfradkin
http://www.youtube.com/user/lfradkin

Post by o***@laposte.net
Or maybe no one wants to play midi guitar anymore ?
Olivier

[Brian Brockie]

Just had a listen to some of your stuff Les - very impressive

Keep up the good work .... a fine example of what can be achieved (but not by me) !!

Brian Brockie
London UK


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To: ***@yahoogroups.com
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I not only play Midi guitar all the time, I'm
well known for so doing.Check out my stuff. You might
like it.

Regards,
Les Fradkin
http://www.lesfradkin.comhttp://www.reverbnation.com/lesfradkinhttps://www.facebook.com/lfradkinhttp://www.youtube.com/user/lfradkin







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Or maybe no one
wants to play midi guitar anymore ?



Olivier

[fulvio trambusti]

check reverbnation.com/nightinside you'll find two tracks i played using a
roland gr 20 for backing strings parts and midi vocal part sequenced using
an old axon ax 100 and then processed with vocaloid to syntetize the "human
voice"
check out and let me lknow what you think about this crazy effort...

Post by o***@laposte.net
Or maybe no one wants to play midi guitar anymore ?
Olivier